this morning president obama is going to talk to members of the washington business round table. house speaker john boehner and congressional leaders will meet with small business owners on the hill. talking to everybody else doesn't look like they're talking to each other. they're not reaching across the aisle here. my next guest says that most politicians don't want to go over the cliff but some partisans might derail the discussions. there is a danger ahead, a growing core russ on both sides who insist there's no reason to fear going over the fiscal cliff y if if the cliff exists at all. call them cliff deniers. leading directly to the loss of america's aaa credit rating. listening to them again would be the definition of insanity. john who has a ph.d. in instaneny co-author of "deadline artists." i was in d.c. this week and struck by there is one track going on of negotiations, the track you're seeing on television. not the smoke filled back rooms at this point. they're not there yet. usually i complain about the deals happening and the scenes. there is no behind the scenes a